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    Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by XxXTechBoyXxX, Sep 17, 2016.

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    1. XxXTechBoyXxX
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      So recently I have been banned for death threats, and I didnt say it. the person who has reported me has edited the gyazos to make it look like I said "K your *"

      So I emideatly appealed, and I showed my logs, but the staff did not accept it, even if the gyazos was fake or not I would still be banned.

      After being Admin/mod on numerous servers.
      I have got an idea, the staff should get the server chat logs, this is what my message would look like

      [17/09/2016 16:27:09] XxXTechBoyXxX: Hello

      from this the staff can:

      •look at every chat message
      •it shows what players actually said
      •shows the exact time.

      This explains it much better than I can:https://mods.curse.com/bukkit-plugins/minecraft/chatsaver
       
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      XxXTechBoyXxX, Sep 17, 2016
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      Can I see the gyazo picture the reporter posted?
       
      Cake, Sep 17, 2016
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      You realize the reason we do not accept logs is because those can indeed be edited easily.
      Yes sometimes it happens where Gyazo pictures are faked but even so we can usually see mistakes in the picture proving so.
      I doubt we'd ever get access to server chat logs.
       
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      I might be able to find a flaw in the image
       
      Cake, Sep 17, 2016
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      XxXTechBoyXxX, Sep 17, 2016
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      StrKillr, Sep 17, 2016
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    7. XxXTechBoyXxX
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      This is my logs
      [22:14:47] [Client thread/INFO]: Setting user: XxXTechBoyXxX
      [22:14:47] [Client thread/INFO]: (Session ID is token:eba1f95f43394db78e008db313aaf712:a9f16b6d9165400da7c4b1234cb2134a)
      [22:14:47] [Client thread/INFO]: LWJGL Version: 2.9.4
      [22:14:48] [Client thread/INFO]: Reloading ResourceManager: Default
      [22:14:48] [Sound Library Loader/INFO]: Starting up SoundSystem...
      [22:14:48] [Thread-7/INFO]: Initializing LWJGL OpenAL
      [22:14:48] [Thread-7/INFO]: (The LWJGL binding of OpenAL. For more information, see http://www.lwjgl.org)
      [22:14:49] [Thread-7/INFO]: OpenAL initialized.
      [22:14:49] [Sound Library Loader/INFO]: Sound engine started
      [22:14:50] [Client thread/INFO]: Created: 1024x512 textures-atlas
      [22:15:52] [Client thread/INFO]: Connecting to mineverse.com, 25565
      [22:15:53] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] A new §eOptiFine§f version is available: §eHD Ultra H6§f
      [22:15:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Teleporting...
      [22:15:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT]
      [22:15:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT]
      [22:15:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Welcome to Mineverse
      [22:15:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT]
      [22:15:57] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [EchoPet] Your Saved Pet (Dinnerbone) now follows close behind you.
      [22:15:58] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Sponsor] VapeGod77: u play kit pv
      [22:16:00] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Connecting to the KitPvP server.
      [22:16:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT]
      [22:16:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [LOTTERY] Draw in: 52 minutes, and 22 seconds
      [22:16:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Welcome to Mineverse KitPvP
      [22:16:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Purchase ranks, pets, and more at shop.mineverse.com
      [22:16:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] There are currently 24 players online
      [22:16:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Parranesia: thats what i'm trying to tell him
      [22:16:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Vote at http://vote.mineverse.com for $25, 10 levels of XP, and access to /kit tempest for 12 hours!
      [22:16:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] xXBannanaXx: SanjiCraft
      [22:16:06] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] StrafesForDayz_: DAm
      [22:16:08] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Mineverse] Purchase Powerful Ranks Enchanted Kits In Game Money and more at shop.mineverse.com or by typing /buy
      [22:16:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] DSavageCookie: who has 480$
      [22:16:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT]
      [22:16:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [LOTTERY] Draw in: 1 hour, 27 minutes, and 31 seconds
      [22:16:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Welcome to Mineverse KitPvP
      [22:16:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Purchase ranks, kits, pets, and more at shop.mineverse.com
      [22:16:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] There are currently 24 players online
      [22:16:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [God] Sxpr: irl doe....
      [22:16:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [EchoPet] Your Saved Pet (Dinnerbone) now follows close behind you.
      [22:16:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Vote at http://vote.mineverse.com for $25, 10 levels of XP, and access to /kit tempest for 12 hours!
      [22:16:20] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Sponsor] carrick09: still
      [22:16:21] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Received kit commander.
      [22:16:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [CombatTag] You have hit rexcar1234. Please do not logout while in combat.
      [22:16:31] [Client thread/ERROR]: Item entity 420362 has no item?!
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      [22:16:32] [Client thread/ERROR]: Item entity 420383 has no item?!
      [22:16:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Sponsor] carrick09: theyr free
      [22:16:39] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [God] Sxpr: irl?/
      [22:16:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [CombatTag] You have been hit by NSXT1. Please do not logout while in combat.
      [22:16:44] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Sponsor] carrick09: yes and here
      [22:16:50] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [God] Sxpr: irl pls
      [22:16:51] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Mineverse] Purchase Powerful Ranks Enchanted Kits In Game Money and more at shop.mineverse.com or by typing /buy
      [22:16:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [CombatTag] You have hit NSXT1. Please do not logout while in combat.
      [22:17:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [CombatTag] You have been hit by StealthyPlays. Please do not logout while in combat.
      [22:17:21] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Sponsor] carrick09: who wants cigarettes
      [22:17:25] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [God] Sxpr: me
      [22:17:27] [Client thread/ERROR]: Item entity 420629 has no item?!
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      [22:17:34] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [MVP] XxXTechBoyXxX: meh
      [22:17:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [God] EatMyCqmbos: hya
      [22:17:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Sponsor] carrick09: just tpa to me for drugs
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      [22:17:41] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [ClearLag] Removed 172 Entities!
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      [22:17:50] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Elite] LuluHasMadHair: saaaah doodz!
      [22:17:51] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Hey! Sorry, but you can't PvP here.
      [22:17:52] [Client thread/ERROR]: Item entity 420778 has no item?!


      Look at the time of the screen shot and the logs
       
      XxXTechBoyXxX, Sep 17, 2016
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    8. StrKillr
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      although I get your approach, you need to understand that chat logs can't be accepted as evidence (I just edited some of your logs, prove me which ones are fake?)
      The only thing you can do here is to appeal and if you have evidence like screenshots or video at that time in game to provide them. :/
      I know it sucks. :(

      I think the screenshot is suspicious tho.
       
      StrKillr, Sep 17, 2016
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      hmm it does look suspicious.
      -Why didn't the reporter use the minecraft f3 screenshot?
      -Won't people say things like "ez ban"
      -Why is this reporter taking a photo of the photo?

      Who reported you?
       
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      The screenshot seems suspicious; some of the S has been cut off.
      I don't think that it would be possible for mods to access this: maybe admins?
      Neutral
       
      jezz, Sep 17, 2016
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      Idk
       
      XxXTechBoyXxX, Sep 17, 2016
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      The reporter didn't take the photo directly from the minecraft screenshots
       
      Cake, Sep 17, 2016
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      There aren't admins but I think the developers and the owners only have access to it
       
      Cake, Sep 17, 2016
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      I mean yeah because you can only see 3/4 of that "S"
       
      Shireen, Sep 17, 2016
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      This is no place to be talking about your ban this is to discuss a suggestion, Keep it on topic please. Deleting all posts off topic from now on.
       
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      Surge, Sep 17, 2016
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      I'll provide my full opinion through PM to avoid getting off topic here but I strongly believe this was a photoshopped image due to many factors. I am neutral for this suggestion, chat logs are very private and I doubt players would be comfortable in us having records of them. Possibly only for head moderators?
       
      amli, Sep 17, 2016
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      EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Don't forget that the minecraft client isn't loaded. This stinks.
       
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      #FREETECHBOY
       
      StrKillr, Sep 17, 2016
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      Ok. Your logs can easily be edited, that's why we don't accept them.
      And Crew and Cypriot are not going to sit through their console or server logs for hours to find the exact moment you were banned - that would take ages, literally so long.
      And, us moderators cannot be trusted with the console - so we cannot do this either.
       
      Winnfield, Sep 17, 2016
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      Elliot if it was you who was false banned nearly everyone would be trying to get evidence to prove it wasn't you, even cyp. but when it happens to me only one or two staff actually care

      http://www.mineverse.com/threads/death-threats-banned-maxamul.104503/#post-1046678
       
      XxXTechBoyXxX, Sep 17, 2016
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