Now, many of you know of the suggestion of adding, /vanish command to Mineverse. To most of you, this idea is supported by the community, but not by many of the staff. Why is that? Well, the idea originally was to give all moderators /vanish, but that idea kinda died out with new mods abusing commands that they have now. So, why not senior mods then? Well, Senior moderators believe they would still abuse the command even 6 months after being a moderator. My argument here is simple: If /vanish is too much power, why haven't we taken away /god and /fly from Mods? You can abuse as much power as you can with /God and /Fly which we have had many demotions on moderators forgetting they have /god or /fly on and abuse their power. The amount of power Mods have now is the same amount of power they would have with /vanish but they would have a better ability to catch hackers. What is /vanish you might ask? Well, /Vanish is the ability to go completely invisible to the server. You don't see the player in-game, on the player list by hitting tab, or as a mod they wouldn't appear online in /staff. Now of course the moment they log off, /vanish goes away and the next time they log on they have to use /vanish to be invisible to the server again. Essentially command logs would be the fastest way to catch staff abusing the command. Now, if we did have say a plugin developed by say the developing team that we say pay for (or not pay for, I got mix signals that they may or may not be paid to develop) we could say watch when moderators /vanish and log on/log off to see if they are abusing the commands. Who according to me should have such power to go invisible to the world? Well, the senior moderators of course. While you could argue 6 months is not enough time to prove someone isn't using this job to abuse their power that has been given to them, I disagree. The reason is, you can do so much damage day one as moderator that you don't need 6 months to wait it out. The minute you become mod, is the minute you can abuse it and you can abuse it easily. Of course its easy to spot someone abusing their power and its easy for them to be demoted for it as well. So, giving a moderator that has been here for 6 months and has proven their worth should be given the responsibility of /vanish. Suggestions to the idea: Remove /Vanish from Titan perks, even if Mods aren't given /vanish neither should Titans keep it. If its too much power for the staff, its too much power even for the community to own. Being able to go vanish from the server allows the player to abuse it by say abusing prices on Skyblock (Staff and players alike have abused it, don't deny it, we know) to keep people from saying, "HEY! You abused prices!" Remove the ability from placing, removing, or editing blocks (only exception would say signs that lock chests if that ability is added in the future). The way to do this would be to say put the moderator in gamemode 3 while in /vanish to prevent abuse. This could also be implemented into Titans as well if we want to keep them from abusing it as well while also giving the the command. Add the title, "Vanish Mode" Beside the name of the moderator so they can see if they are in vanish or not (on tab only). This would be seen by them and other moderators not only for their own convenience but so other staff members ca catch them abusing it. So, do you support, no support, or are in the middle for this idea? If so, comment below with your reasons!
No Support. One of the senior moderators abused this already *cough cough Kinsey*. He's Titan so he has /v but abused the cookie prices on Skyblock , he was in /v for he wouldn't have been caught.
*cough cough* we have no say plugin logging /v anyway. Also, why do Titans have it yet Moderators don't? Why are Titans allowed to abuse things when Moderators can't? Although I do know Kinsey abused said /v sadly we have no evidence, anyway back to the subject, we can't sit here and let titans have all the power of /v without giving moderators global ability to /v.
oopsies -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- In my personal opinion, the reason /vanish isn't allowed is because /vanish can hide you completely. Nobody can see you in the player list and they can't do tab when typing your name. It's like you're not even online. Moderators may accidentally leave /v on, and forget about it. Boom, demotion. Just like me putting /fly while whacking some hacker with an enchanted sword. But, why do Titans have this? lolwat. Yes, they're not trusted by many to not abuse it because they have a job, but it's still bs. Neutral. Heres some ideas on how this can be made, better? In the stats tab on the right hand side, have a "Vanish Mode" for the senior staff, that way they can see if they're on /v or not. Nothing to do with staff, but remove vanish on Titans, due to it being pay2win. Moderators cannot hit, break, or alter anything on the world, other than speak, move and do commands.
It's ridiculous how staff don't have more commands. When I was head-mod, I was always fighting for commands to a point where I probably looked permission hungry. I did have success but a lot of the time, I didn't - that shouldn't be the case. Moderators+ are here to help the server in any way they can. However, there is a certain point where there needs to be a little trust. Senior Mods have a few extra permissions than mods but still nothing that they should have - not to mention Staff Managers (Staff Managers should have close to administrative permissions). One who works so hard for 6 months, as Rlx said, wouldn't really be prone to abuse and ruin everything. Vanish is a risky command but will do way more good than harm. It should certainly be added.
Thanks for the support. Like I said, if its such a issue of being abused, why not remove the other commands that would be abused as much as /vanish would be? Cypriot of course is a bit lacking in trust from Moderators betraying the server and I understand that. But, its come to a point where staff such as Bananurz has to beg Cypriot to start trusting moderators that have been here for months and months to be given more power to do more good to the server.
yea it's not like people used /fly and got demoted because they used it whilst pvping. totally not me guys lol stop looking at me
This is because of titans /v . There are instances where normal, Titan ranked players also troll on others' islands and use /v . Isn't that abuse too?
And /God or /Fly isn't enough abuse? Like I said, /God or /Fly could be abused as much as /V and we have plenty of examples of people abusing /fly or /god. While you are invisible to the community, the suggestion presents challenges to the staff trying to avoid being /v to everyone. While I do think if we don't remove /v from Titans and don't add it to staff, I believe Titans should also been shown in vanish mode in tab to staff so we could catch those trying to abuse it. Like I also suggested, game mode 3 would be implemented preventing mods from editing blocks. While there will probably be a mod who abuses it, this suggestion lessens the damage he/she could do.
I fully agree with this. Even if Moderators aren't given this /v permission, I am definitely supporting that the Senior Mods get it.
