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  • [Skyblock] Fix for changing what mob spawners spawn

    Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Halex00, Oct 24, 2015.

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    Should /spawner be added to the mod perms?

    1. Yes, I read your response and like the idea.

      53.3%
    2. No, I think it would be a bad change to skyblock. (please comment what you would do then)

      23.3%
    3. Maybe, I like the idea in general but I would prefer to stay neutral.

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    1. Halex00
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      Hello again mineverse, its me Halex. Okay lets just cut to the chase and reason for this post. Recently the ability to silk touch spawners has been added to the skyblock server, and don't get me wrong, I love this feature and I am sure many others do too. It is just a side effect of this feature that I don't love, the way that the plugin is written, you can silk touch spawners, but at the same time, the ability to use spawn eggs to change the spawner type has been removed by it. I honestly do not know if this was intended when the plugin was added but either way I wanted to propose a solution that. (scroll down to the re-edit message, ignore the fix in this paragraph after this point) I hope will just be temporary and will be replaced with a more user friendly fix but for now I suggest giving Mods the ability to use the /spawner command. Here are my arguments for this: If this person is a mod, they already proved themselves to be a reliable and trustworthy person so there is a next to zero percent chance that the Mod would abuse this power, people could have a use for spawn eggs again and the ones who spent hundreds of thousands of in game cash on spawn eggs wouldn't just have fancy paper weights, and there would be a point in buying more than one spawner from the server website because we could have more than pigs (that means more money for you mineverse ;)). How I propose that this would work for now would be that a player would contact a mod, then that player would give said mod a pig spawner or other spawner and the egg for the desired mob that that spawner should make, then the mod would change the spawner, delete the egg and return the newly edited spawner to the player, easy as that. Anyways thats my fix for the issue with not being able to change spawner types. I love to read your feedback and see what you think of this idea, and if you do like it remember to drop a support. Thanks!! :D
      -Halex

      EDIT: After reading the replies I decided that it would be better to have /spawner be a head-mod only command not a command for all mods to use.


      RE-EDIT (THIS IS THE UPDATED VERSION OF MY FIX, IGNORE THE ABOVE TEXT): After reading your replies again I decided a way to solve the trust issue, skyblock has a /challenge system where if you provide items and then complete the challenge, the original items get taken away and your reward gets given to you. What if there was a system where you provided any spawner and a spawn egg and typed /spawnerchange (egg type) and you got that in return and it took the egg and the starting spanwer. For example if you had a cow spawner and you had a slime egg, type /spawnerchange slime, the egg and spawner get taken from you and your "reward or product" that you get back is a slime spawner. After thinking about it I came up with this idea because it fixes both of the problematic aspects of my previous idea which is the trust issues of this command because of the possibility corrupt mods and any struggle for trying to contact a head mod to perform this command for you.

      Also, the poll question is now "Should what the re-edit says come into effect?" I just can't change the question once I posted the thread already.

      @NachoBae came up with this idea, I thought it was really smart so I wanted to add it to the actual thread
      This edit would work too so there is an easy way to make spawners changeable again.
       
      Last edited: Dec 10, 2015
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      Sounds good, support
       
    3. ItsSniiper
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      Support
       
    4. Tammato
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      If this were added, there would be so many requests to change spawners over and over again and the mods would get even more busy then they already are. This is a nice idea and I would love this but I'm not sure. Neutral :D
       
    5. yehs
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      Support. :)
       
    6. Cambo_aka_Alpha
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      To many words for me to read... But I agree 100% :D
       
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      Support.
       
    8. BlackZone
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    9. Alex
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      I disagree with that statement.

      We can not forget other cases where a Moderator has abused their powers and we definitely can not assume that it will not happen again. A 'next to zero percent chance' is false. I am not saying I do not trust my fellow staff members, I am just saying that you never know what can happen.

      It is a good idea but it sounds a little OP.

      I will stay neutral on this one.
       
    10. Winnfield
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      I agree with Alex;
      Moderators haven't "proved themselves", they can still abuse powers.
      With an OP Command like this, you never know weather they will use /spawner for themselves or not.
      No Support.
       
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      No Support!
      As this is a OP Command for anyone even Moderators there is
      always that one chance that a Moderator can break the Mineverse Moderators Terms
      and abuse there powers and be a corrupt Moderator.

      Which can also lead to decreasing the Mineverse Reputation all because of one
      Moderator that has broke the Mineverse Moderators Terms.

      -MrBigDaddy146
       
    12. Alex
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      Not only can they use it for themselves, but for their friends as well. We just have to think of the negatives as well as the positives to this idea.
       
    13. Winnfield
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      It is a bad Idea, everyone would also be applying for Moderator :p.
       
    14. Bananurz
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      It would be an incredibly useful command. Maybe the head-moderator group could receive the permissions if trust is an issue. Who knows? Anyways, support.
       
    15. Winnfield
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      Hahah, of course you would say that Head Mod gets it xD.
      Just Kidding.

      I definitely think trust is an issue, so I back your idea.
       
    16. Halex00
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      I understand everyone's problem with trust and I like your idea with it being a head mod only perm. I honestly just said mod for 2 reason: a) if mods and head mods had the perm, people who could change the spawner type would be online more often b) I didn't really think about saying head mod rather than mod when I made the thread :P. I like the idea tho.
       
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      I agree with this, I don't like the new thing where you cant put eggs in spawner's... Please change It back or do what halex said :)
       
    18. WinterWaffles
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      support! I think it should only go to trustworthy mods though, and as well as just being for setting the type of spawner, you could also replace griefed spawners (if there is evidence, of course) because I know a couple of people who have had their spawners griefed (with mods present at the time) and when you spend $5 (or equivalent IG) you deserve to have it replaced :)
       
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      I agree that Head-Moderators should be granted this permission, as bananaman said. :)
       
    20. Akn
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      Why not, Support.
       

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