Remove AntiCheat from Survival

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  1. Sando3
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    Nande?
    • There is no reason to have an AC on Survival (31d ban for hacking and staff are rather active here)
    • It kicks you when the server is lagging (especially when grinding excavation)
    • It drags you down to the ground when using an elytra when the server is lagging (kills you)
    • Would reduce server lag and improve tps to some extent
     
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    rather than remove it why not just have it for the few hacks that really matter (at least disabling the majority of it may help?) like fly and xray assuming those features work in the anticheat already.
     
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    No such module

    I have also barely seen anyone kicked for Fly, but there might be a module for it nonetheless. It might go under Speed I. Either way the anti-fly settings are too sensitive and results in deaths when using an elytra

    But yes I guess disabling modules will help a bit anyway
     
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    well in that case guess it doesn't matter after all.
     
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  6. CodBucket
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    One of the reasons why the anticheat was implemented to protect from some server breaking hacks. An example of one of those exploits involves an elytra which you use to lag out the server. No support from me.
     
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  8. i_am_youtuber
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    How about tweaking it to only be used against those hacks then? Remove every module except the ones needed for server breaking hacks, and tweak those ones to best serve those hacks.

    Or just remove the extremely problamatic ones. Personally Im kicked by the move 1 kick anytime Im hit oh a mob or even on fire, and my 7+ pages of anticheat kicks can prove that. Remove the Move 1 kick and nearly all of my issues and anyone else whos having issues with the move 1 kick are gone. While still keeping the server safe.
     
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    support the only hacker we need to stop is tuber and his ping prevents him from doing much anyway
     
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    uhh i’m not sure if you have the rating here but- neutral from me
     
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    I should have asked this before replying earlier, but which anticheat are you wanting to be removed? Both?
     
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    No support, no anticheat and people will be bhopping in their bases and flying around
     
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    I've already caught someone flying around flawlessly so I don't even know if the flying module is working properly

    I don't see why more people would hack when it benefits you close to nothing. Sure, it's fun to fly around, but they'll just be handed a fat 31 day ban and be gone. If you actually want an advantage you'd xray 50 spawners like people are already doing. Xray actually ruins the game, flying does not since it can be achieved legitimately with an elytra. I see no reason why people would use fly more than they already do.

    The server lagged out 9 times in like 10 minutes yesterday. Convince me people would be using this elytra exploit of yours more often than the server is already restarting.

    I'm simply stating that over half of the AntiCheat checks are annoying, unnecessary and result in players dying. It would be up to Kinsey to evaluate what to remove/disable.
     
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    Support. Or they could just fix the glitches of anticheat, as there is problems with it on every single server..
     
  15. Disc
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    yeah sure, support. Maybe have a 1 week trial test and see how that goes
     
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    Neutral. Not sure especially due to some of the things Porky and Cod stated.
     
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    Support, also getting slammed down onto the ground when you hit a world border is scary af
     
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    sadly no, otherwise people can crash the server.

    Thank you for submitting your suggestion. We have decided that we will not be implementing this suggestion.

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