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  • Ridiculous Skyblock Shop Prices

    Discussion in 'Off-Topic Archive' started by twin_nic, Jun 26, 2019.

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    1. twin_nic
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      Never posted a rant before, but here goes nothing...

      On Mineverse Skyblock, the only farms that we can fully AFK (Every other farm requires some sort of player interaction) are as follows:
      -Pumpkin
      -Melon
      -Sugarcane
      -Cactus
      -Various Spawner farms
      -Hostile mob farms

      To buy a single piece of dirt (Which now costs $800 as of today!), we would need to sell either:

      -1400 Pumpkins
      -12400 Melons
      -6700 Sugarcane
      -4700 Cactus
      -2400 Cooked Porkchop
      -1600 Cooked Mutton
      -2500 Cooked Steak
      -3200 Bones
      -4000 String
      (…)

      Make your pick, they're all ridiculously worthless. Pumpkins, which used to run the economy, take on average 12 minutes to grow... Shop prices were supposedly adjusted to advantage newer players, but I don't think anyone wants to wait 16 800 minutes for a second piece of dirt. If this was an attempt to get people to buy ranks for grass, I feel like it is having the complete opposite effect, discouraging any players, old and new.

      That being said, unless they increase sell prices of AFK-able farm drops, or decrease the price of dirt, I'll be looking into other servers, and I'm sure others will too.

      Thanks for reading through my rant,

      -Nick
       
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      I didn't even have to read this... I just saw the title and agreed 10000000%
       
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      All I had to read was the title to understand where this was going. Seriously I feel like the prices are BEYOND ridiculous. 800 for a single block of plain dirt and sand and 1k for a grass block? 8,400 for a SINGLE diamond axe while on survival a diamond axe is 1,200 each.
       
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      Shop prices for farming were reduced due to the massive number of huge island farmed things there were.

      In fact, you yourself were one of these people.

      There are still many other ways to make money.

      The reason things cost do much in the shop is because you are able to get them in other ways, the only reason most of the shop is used is because of convince.

      There are plenty of ways to get things like grass, such as kits and trading.
       
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      This is only encouraging people to turn towards island farming even more... And every other way to make money require player interventions such as planting seeds, crafting things, breaking blocks manually and so on... Some of us don't have time to reach baltop by doing these things manually, especially since balances weren't cleared after these changes.
       
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      Let's be real here, the previous shop before the reset was way better.

      Before I left the staff team I remember telling Crew to change the prices, spawners are essentially useless and are complete garbage which cost so much irl money for them too!

      The skyblock reset was good but the shop totally kills it for me.
       
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      No it's really not.

      All it's doing is encouraging people to use things other then farms for money, if you think this isn't the case then look times like when we made cookies cheaper, just about all the farms stopped.


      You think people could reach baltop legit with the huge farms that people who have been here forever have built?

      This is how crew's servers are, any look at .net you would see the same thing.

      It's the same reason iron golems don't spawn, he doesn't like people being able to just afk for a quick buck.
       
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      Crew only updated the /shop plugin. All prices have been set to .net's buy and sell prices. I went on there to check. This is the case for most items such as dirt, cookies and pumpkins. Exactly the same buy/sell prices
       
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      You guys ruined cookies, then the farms disappeared. Now you've ruined any other farm that requires dirt or sand, and they'll probably disappear too. Fantastic, now we'll mine stone for baltop! I just need to mine nearly 57 500 000 (over 16 500 double chests) of stone and I'll be first on baltop! Sounds very reasonable to think that people can reach baltop now... Do you realise we're running out of ways to make money? If we can't make farms, we can't kills mobs, and we can't mine stone/wood for significant money, then we'll need an alternative way! Just read the numbers I stated in my post and tell me if any of them seem reasonable to you.

      My 'last resort' idea was to make a gold farm, but I know gold prices will get nerfed the minute it starts being profitable, so I won't even bother. None of you seem to understand that the reason people are on baltop is because they spent 20-30 hours of work on their farm, and probably weeks worth of income on the materials for them. It's not just ''AFK for a quick buck''.

      If you want to stop island farming, just remove dirt from starter islands. If you want to lower sell prices, reset all balances first. If you think new players should still get some dirt/grass (If there's none in the starter island), then give them a kit grass with an infinite timer. I don't think either of these suggestions are too much to ask.

      Also, you can't compare a Skyblock gamemode with an average of 10 players online to a Skyblock server with an average of 200 players online. If there were 200 players on Mineverse Skyblock, with half of them having a rank, there wouldn't be a shortage of dirt/grass.

      Finally, I completely agree that we should put in the work to get on baltop, I've hit baltops at least once on almost every gamemode since 2013, even grinding-intensive ones like both Prisons. If I'm starting to think we can't make money anymore, imagine how the newer players feel, especially when every player on the current baltop made their money with something that is now worthless.

      Before you just reply saying I'm wrong and you're right, please just read the numbers again and put some thought into it, you can't deny that they are completely out of proportions. I've never posted a rant before, but this time I felt it was necessary, since a few of the most active players on Skyblock agree with me on this one (Krissie, SwagMasterLogen, JustExposed, SpeedyCuber and even Dualband).
       
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      We're would be fine with that considering you can't really have an unfair advantage with that.

      The entire reason the shop prices changed are because people like you do things like island farm and gain an unfair advantage.

      The numbers in your post do not make sense though.

      Yes, the shop prices are high, but that's because nearly everything in there is only there for convenience, nearly everything there you can get without using the shop (usually quite easily as well)

      You seem to be back tracking on yourself.

      This defeats the whole purpose of skyblock, and if you think new players aren't going to like these changes do you really think they want to play on a server that doesn't even have the main concept of the island?

      That's not even starting on the point that there are a lot of folks who island farmed before we got logblock, meaning we can't do anything.

      There isn't a shortage of that at all, the whole argument about the dirt price is stupid because for one, nobody buys dirt, and two, there are plenty of other ways of getting dirt as I said.

      You can't compare one of mv's servers to the entire one of .net there are plenty of ranks on modes like op who can do trades (sometimes even for free)

      Again, this isn't a good argument.

      No new player could make a farm as big as the people on baltop have them legit.

      They are out of proportions, until you see the fact that the shop is only their to get you started and for convenience, once you get some basic supplies you no longer have a need for the shop unless you want to.

      Most of your arguments are simply you stating what you have before while not disproving any of my points. Hence why I'm not going to respond to this anymore.
       
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      This is so ridiculous, i have around 23 floors of my pumpkin farm and i make around 60k a day and a week i make about 420k and in 5 weeks i would make 2.1 Million almost putting me on baltop just 23 layers btw. it took me about 3 weeks of trading to get this much grass. PLUS DIRT ONLY COSTS $600 IN THE SHOP
       
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      If you havn't noticed yet, pumpkins sell for less now and dirt costs more in the shop since yesterday... Please read my post before replying...
       
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      For those of you that have been following this thread, the shop price for dirt has been lowered back to $600, and the sell price for pumpkins were put halfway between old price and new price at $0.65 per. Thank you everyone who supported :) This thread can be archived or something!
       
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      Thread locked on request.
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      Kind regards,
      The Staff
       
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