Skyblock [1/20] Skyblock Reset + Fix

melgrath · Dec 2, 2016

The Real Xtreme said: ↑

I completely understand as well, mine like many other islands was hard worked and all that, which is why I didn't want a full reset. I never did because of those who truly worked hard enough for their islands. Of course I would have preferred to talk about island farming, but sadly that's a issue that contradicts with my suggestion of /bal reset only.

To solve the issue we must ask ourselves, we do ever get repayed by the staf for scams when we clearing paid the price? No. Do we get paid when our balances or items get reset on "accident"? No. Then why should we say give back those that spent money for in-game items? To be fair we shouldn't. However, if we did have some kind of reconstitution to those who have clear evidence of purchases of important deals, say in the thousands we could return the balances to those that traded before the reset.

As for those who have in-game items such as diamonds, well the only solution to that would be a hard reset of the game mode and that's not really a possibility in the near future. Of course my idea has some flaws and all that, but I believe reseting the balances, possibly giving those back that did say donor rank trades or diamond trades, or etc. back their balances along with fixing the /shop prices such as Chiseled stone would help the economy of the game mode. Not only would the value of say chiseled stone go down back to the value of stone, but we would have more than one option for maximum farming. For if everything is int he 3-4k range in farming instead of one item being in the 7k for an inventory, we are giving more than option to maximize the farming capability.

Will it get rid of the problem? No, but it stops it from being farmed as much as it is now. If we stop the problem at the moment, we lessen the amount of in-game items that would be farmed before it was removed, thereby lessening the amount of items you could sell after the balance resets. Of course people would have somewhat of a fair chance and those who farmed their items would have an advantage, but at least they would have to grind the rest of their money in a more legitimate way rather than using some high priced item.
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I understand your point, but ask yourself this. Is chiseled stone available to everyone? Yes. Can anyone farm cookies? Yes.

With the above being true, anyone is capable of making that 7k per inventory. If everyone is capable of making that, where is the harm? Inflated economy? Maybe, but inevitably things have a way of settling out. With spawners costing 200-500k, there will always be things for people to spend money on, that will inevitably help take some out (especially is /bal tops at 999k, players will spend just to make more). I would also argue that in some ways, an inflated economy can be helpful to newer players. By making it easier for new players to get some money to spend in /shop, it actually encourages them and gives them motivation to keep playing.

I guess with things being where they are (with Cyp already turning down values on multiple items) the opportunity is there for anyone to still make as much money as those on /baltop. The key is time and desire. I for example last night, forwent making money in order to build some fun new builds on my island. That was a choice that meant my island was more appealing/functional, but at the cost of making money. Players make a choice in what they spend their time on. If they wish to make money? There is options for it and nothing stopping them. If they don't care about money and want to build? Great! Go for it it, as again, nothing is stopping anyone.

The idea of /bal reset is essentially trying to reset the economy without actually resetting it. I mean I can log on tonight and buy a full inventory of diamonds to hold as "hard currency" and let baltop reset, then just go again. With nothing being gained, or minimal gain versus the loss of massive amounts of hardwork by everyone on the server, the cons seem to massively outweigh any pros.

NOTE: I appreciate the back and forth on this and am trying not to "be a jerk" but I know I do feel very strongly on this based on the amount of work and money applied to get where I am, so any jerkiness I apologize for.

Cheers,
Melgrath

twin_nic · Dec 2, 2016

Erm I disagree :P Sure money is much easier than old skyblock... But so are buy prices... If you want to buy a 300k spawner, it will take over a week of grinding stone to afford it, just like it would take a week of afking mob farms on the old skyblock to afford a 30k spawner from someone. And this morning, I got someone to 1 mil on this skyblock to see if there was a balcap, and nope (Or at least, theres no balcap at 1m). So having lots of money isn't a problem :P And sure, stone might be great but when people start having a dozen sheep spawners, they will make double the money they can make from stone in the same amount of time... those are the prices that should be lowered. I mean, I think it's pretty reasonable that after 2 weeks, the people who grinded the most on the entire server can afford like 2 spawners from the shop :P Bal reset will kill the server... Ask anyone from oppvp or kitpvp, bals reset all the time on there lmao c:

twin_nic · Dec 2, 2016

melgrath said: ↑

No Support. Emphatic No Support.

I spent $100 on keys throughout the Black Friday event. For those keeping track, that is 40 keys that resulted in roughly 20 diamond items. Each of those diamond items sold for 8-11k per. That means roughly 200k of my money was a direct attribute of those legendary keys. Add in another 50k for selling a Zerker key and 75k from a pig spawner and over 325k of my money was directly tied to keys.

Unless Cyp/Crew wanted to refund every single player who bought legendary keys, I cannot no support this hard enough. My money was not gained through shop glitches, or AFK farming, or any such thing. My money was grinded out with a combination of savy investments on /AH plus the keys mentioned above.

I have gathered at least 150k from cookies in their current state and not before. Grinding cookies is possible for any player and allows for at least 5-10k per day if you choose to invest in that route. Just because there may be a few people left on /baltop who abused, doesn't mean the entire server should be punished for it.

If you want to get at people abusing the system, maybe talk about the mass amount of island farming that is going on? You don't touch on island farming anywhere in your post which is one of the biggest issues with Skyblock right now as people are selling inventories of lava buckets and dirt. A /bal reset doesn't touch on that issue in any capacity, but people profit hugely from dirt blocks at $30-50 per and each island reset giving 50+ dirt blocks.

Lastly, what about the abusers who used money for other things? People who bought bunches of diamonds or tools, etc so that even if /bal got reset they still have the items and sell diamond picks for example and VOILA! are right back at where they are. I apologize if this post comes off very strongly worded, but a /bal reset does not resolve any of the early economy struggles of skyblock as it completely misses many of those you rail against as abusers.

Cheers,
Melgrath
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One step ahead of you, mel c: I made a post about solutions regarding island farming a couple days ago :D I'm Oyy by the way :3 hehe

http://www.mineverse.com/threads/just-ban-us-all-in-case-we-might-island-farm-why-dont-you.111882/

melgrath · Dec 2, 2016

twin_nic said: ↑

One step ahead of you, mel c: I made a post about solutions regarding island farming a couple days ago :D I'm Oyy by the way :3 hehe

http://www.mineverse.com/threads/just-ban-us-all-in-case-we-might-island-farm-why-dont-you.111882/
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Supported. Saw some kid last night bragging about having farmed literally hundreds of islands. Was selling entire inventories of buckets and dirt...

_Rlxtreme_ · Dec 2, 2016

melgrath said: ↑

I understand your point, but ask yourself this. Is chiseled stone available to everyone? Yes. Can anyone farm cookies? Yes.

With the above being true, anyone is capable of making that 7k per inventory. If everyone is capable of making that, where is the harm? Inflated economy? Maybe, but inevitably things have a way of settling out. With spawners costing 200-500k, there will always be things for people to spend money on, that will inevitably help take some out (especially is /bal tops at 999k, players will spend just to make more). I would also argue that in some ways, an inflated economy can be helpful to newer players. By making it easier for new players to get some money to spend in /shop, it actually encourages them and gives them motivation to keep playing.

I guess with things being where they are (with Cyp already turning down values on multiple items) the opportunity is there for anyone to still make as much money as those on /baltop. The key is time and desire. I for example last night, forwent making money in order to build some fun new builds on my island. That was a choice that meant my island was more appealing/functional, but at the cost of making money. Players make a choice in what they spend their time on. If they wish to make money? There is options for it and nothing stopping them. If they don't care about money and want to build? Great! Go for it it, as again, nothing is stopping anyone.

The idea of /bal reset is essentially trying to reset the economy without actually resetting it. I mean I can log on tonight and buy a full inventory of diamonds to hold as "hard currency" and let baltop reset, then just go again. With nothing being gained, or minimal gain versus the loss of massive amounts of hardwork by everyone on the server, the cons seem to massively outweigh any pros.

NOTE: I appreciate the back and forth on this and am trying not to "be a jerk" but I know I do feel very strongly on this based on the amount of work and money applied to get where I am, so any jerkiness I apologize for.

Cheers,
Melgrath
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I suppose that's true. I'll probably be rewriting this in a few hours. Kinda busy with everything at the moment.

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