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  • Clarification - Mafia

    Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Exponent_, Jun 5, 2016.

    1. Exponent_
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      Hello, Mineverse community. For once, this is Marcus on the thread here to clarify a few things I've been seeing on the forums recently.

      The first concern I'd like to address is dealing with specific members in Mafia and their behaviors. Let's start off with Rodeen. Yes, I think we can all agree that what @Rodeen said about @Herf was very disgusting and being the former leader of the team, I was the first to address and talk to Rodeen about the "bullying" (quotation marks added for the uncertainty of the connotation). She apologized for how she acted even if she didn't make her derisive remarks directly to the victim (Herf_) himself. Same goes for Sour. Both understood what they did was incorrect and offensive and felt remorse for their actions. They learned their lesson. We had already left it in the past and the adversity ceased to persist. However, whenever they were exposed, many of you seemed very displeased with the vulgar and derogatory statements she made about Herf_. The reason we remained relatively quiet is because there was nothing to say. She was sorry, and it was already left in the past. The thing that upset me most however, was the reaction of the community. Does everyone seriously think that she would make such ugly statements without justification? That's a rhetorical question. Everything everyone knows of the situation is one-sided. Everyone in Mafia happens to know the truth. Herf_ does some awful things to Rodeen as well, but we don't care enough to seek out any sliver of evidence we can to get back at him. We are not that immature. The member who sent those screenshots was removed for the same immature behavior. What Rodeen said was wrong, no denying. However, the reason we remained silent when she got "exposed" was because it was already behind us, and the childish behavior between her and Herf_ was mutual. Yet after reading the comments on the thread Herf_ posted, I can see the community is extremely blind and cannot see that the screenshots of what she said were taken out of context giving the impression that Herf_ was innocent to the entire situation. I can promise Rodeen wouldn't have said those things if the feud between her and Herf_ ceased. I also know for a fact many of you will claim, "you are only defending Rodeen because she is my friend and because she is in Mafia." You would be wrong. Rather, it's because she's on my team that I have gotten to know her. Therefore, she has become my friend and I know she is a good person who wouldn't make such dirty remarks without reason.

      Nonetheless, Herf_ I am making a public apology on behalf of Rodeen's actions. For those who are wondering, Herf_ is my friend and a much appreciated one. He helped me restore my Exponent_ account when it was allegedly "hacked" so if you think we all hate him, you guys, as the community, are once again wrong. I also apologize to other members of the Mineverse community who have been affected some members of Mafia. @cheetahswimmer I apologize for how Jocelyn spoke to you prior to getting banned. I hope from the time you and I spent on Hypixel you can understand we are not all the same and in fact, we can be fun. :)

      This brings up another point. We are not all the same. The person at fault is the one casting judgments and erroneous presuppositions about who we are. Aside from the few members (whom we still love and appreciate) who have caused negative public attention, the rest of us are different. We cannot be held accountable for the actions everyone makes. The actions they make are up to their own discretion regardless of whether they are in Mafia or not. Do not go making accusations thinking you know what we are like and how we function. I have come to learn that Mineverse is full of a bunch of idiots only giving notice to the trouble we cause (although once again, not even everyone), rather the good we have done. I myself try to better the community and get along with everyone. As I stated before, Herf_ and I are still friends. The conflict he has with Rodeen doesn't affect our relationship (at least I hope. He hasn't spoken to me in a while. *cries*). No only Herf, but virtually everyone who I associate with I am friends with. Just don't ask @NoMoreSanity about me because I left a bad impression on him prior to going inactive for 3 months. ;)

      Judge me for making this long, but so much had to be said. One last thing I'd like to say and I'm going to be emphatic as I can be because many still do not understand. You guys don't know us. Seriously. I read so many messages about Mafia and what goes on in our community and it makes us laugh. To be honest, Mafia and its members remain isolated to the Mineverse community. Unless you have spoken to me and have gotten to know me or unless you have been in Mafia and have stayed a while to know how we are, you guys are virtually blind to who we really are. And yet, I still guarantee that even with this thread, the nonsense spewed by the community about us will still persist because what else do children do?

      I will resume the position as Leader in hopes of restoring the reputation of our team. We mean well and we have shown it. If anyone would like to have a mature conversation with me about anything dealing with myself, any member, or the team in general, just private message me and I will gladly do so.

      I end here with an apology to the community. I'm sorry if what I have done, or any member has done has affected you. Likewise, I hope to see a change in the community in the erroneous accusations made against us.

      - Marcus
       
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    2. dera
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      You left out the DDoSing part
       
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      ok

      apology accepted
       
    4. Exponent_
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      We haven't ddosed anyone if that's what you're implying. However, yes, we get ddossed every day, constantly.
       
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      Omg don't even get me started. Two of your members, on today. Opfactions, constantly DDoSing WbcPvP_123 for "trying to expose members". Apparently you don't know your members too well ;)
       
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      ChiChay and Regathering
       
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      The only people they ddos is me.
       
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      Are you trying to be funny?
       
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      tru ^ xD
      Herf_ <3
       
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      Idk, I believe rodeen only feels remorse because she got exposed and received major blacklash. But whatever, @Herf , you should be a bigger person and accept regardless, I know, you shouldn't but whatever.
       
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      No. They ddos me. I have them ddos me for personal reasons. It appears you haven't read what I posted. Once again you are making accusations about people you do not know. Daniel used to ddos but has stopped because I told him to. ChiChay was added like three days ago went on vacation shortly after that. I understand that past knowledge of him has led you to believe he is a "ddoser" however, he isn't like that anymore and sent me a private message stating he has changed. With all due respect, you are the epitome of a member of Mineverse who is spewing nonsense about a member you do not know in an attempt to stir the conflict. Perhaps I myself am accusing you of such a thing, but considering you mentioned something without any notice to what I posted, you appear to be finding conflict affiliated with our team. My statment remains substantiated.
       
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      ok
       
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      But there's a report of ddos threats on ChiChay
       
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      Reread what I said. She apologized to me for her actions BEFORE it was exposed. It didn't bother her all that much when it was exposed because she had already felt remorse for saying such things.
       
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      Damn Daniel
       
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      He hasn't ddosed anyone, I can assure you that. Zero_Inzanity threatens to ddos us, yet he never does. It's just a scare mechanism.
       
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      Yes, she went low to embarrass @Herf and the person she should apologize to is not herf, makes sense. Herf should totally understand
       
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      Look at Reports:Banned.
       
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      Thank you for making this Exponent_. While your apology is tempting to accept, I am not sure how I feel about this situation. In this thread, you have made several good points. For instance, the one where you said that there was 2 sides to every story. If I was being immature why did Rodeen have to follow in my footsteps? Why did she have to post a photo of me and make fun of my personal appearance? See this is the confusing part. All of a sudden, everybody in Mafia is a apologizing to me. This is bizarre because in the past, nobody apologized to me but suddenly because the whole community is reacting to this situation, everyone is my friend. You see, this tale is beginning to diverge. It's SO ironic how Mafia is pretending to be a victim in this situation. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED AN APOLOGY FROM RODEEN. I don't care if you guys have heard her apologize for her actions, because I personally have not been approached by her. To be completely honest, I don't want another one of her completely fake apologies, so it doesn't matter. It's not okay for her to continue to do these detrimental things. If a murderer stabbed someone and apologizes, would you give him his knife back? Yeah, no. Rodeen needs to learn from her mistakes and quit making meaningless apologies. "Be the bigger person Herf", I've tried. If Rodeen really wants this feud to be over, how about she just stops talking to me completely? It would benefit the both of us and it would make Mineverse a less volatile place than it already is.

      Thank you for trying, but no thanks.
       
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      Dude, Rodeen already apologized to you on her profile about harassing you, and you're saying you never heard any apology from @Rodeen?
       

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