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  • The True Value of the Gapple [Prison]

    Discussion in 'Archive' started by MurcielagoSky, May 4, 2014.

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    1. MurcielagoSky
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      I was walking around /warp plots today and I noticed how expensive super god apples were. Prices ranging from 10k to 20k. However super god apples are not even worth 10k. Here is my math:

      It takes 72 golden ingots and 1 apple to craft 1 super god apple.

      According to /warp shop 1 gold ingot is with 20 dollars in prison cash. Since people in prison want to make a profit, items are sold on average 3 times its original value. So 20 dollars*3=60 dollars. A regular apple cannot be sold at /warp shop but the price for 1 apple at /warp plots is about 2000 dollars.

      Now that we know what 1 gold ingot and 1 regular apple is worth we can calculate how much 1 super god apple would be worth.
      (72 ingots * 60 dollars) + 2000 dollars for the regular apple + 2000 dollars for labor = 8320 dollars per super god apple

      For a stack (64) of super god apples that would cost you 532,480 dollars.

      So super god apples are still expensive but the prices at /warp plots are overpriced.
       
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      I agree with this, but if you think of it, realistically, would you have such fair rights inside of a prison? Even if you do, think of the effect after you eat the golden apple, if it were just some high saturation food, and nothing else, we'd have it at about the same price as the one you just highlighted.
       
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      Incredible, thanks for the tip!
       
    4. MurcielagoSky
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      I understand what you're getting at but if the golden apple was only a high saturation food nobody would bother making one. People craft golden apples for the advantages that it has when you are pvping. So yes the price would stay the same if it was only a high saturation food but it wouldn't be worth it.
       
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      My point. If it were high saturation, all it would be is a quality food if it's actually needed. That's why the price would be lowered if it weren't to have such effect.
       
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      If you were to go an entire minecraft day without eating anything else but 1 golden apple, it might be worth it. But I doubt mojang will make an item so expensive to craft with such a lousy perk.
       
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      Correct, I only happened to say that to provide my point. However, your rights in prison would be inevitable, and also, why would they have G apples at such a high price inside the prison, but hardly anything inside of KitPvP? The answer to that, would be with rights, and the equity between the KitPvP, and a prison. An arena where your given an assortment of gear, attempting to kill and sell thing for cash, over a place where you were thrown into, have to work your way out, and sell things for money. If you have less access to achieving money on one server, why do you have to work harder for your desire? That's the one thing I don't understand.

      Also, to anybody who misunderstands this; this isn't an argument, it's an explanation to attempt to surface our points as to what's correct. There's a difference between an argument and a debate. A debate is an explanation from two sides with sensible explanations, while an argument is a dispute in which both disagree with each others statements, which often turns into a dark haze between everybody involved, and everybody who wants to. Hope you understand.
       
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      The [Free] people own a monopoly where they can set the prices to things only accessible in the free world (Which is the reason why 1 regular apple costs 2000 dollars). So that's why you see these outrageous prices at /warp plots, because the items being sold can only be obtained by a person who can enter the free world.
       
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      Thank you for clarifying, considering I'm a noob at Prison :P
       
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      This is awesome!
       
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      I was selling them for 3k each and nobody bought them, the highest offer I got was 1k each which is so not worth it.
       
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      Too bad I wasn't online when you were selling. 3k is a steal.
       
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      I normally would have waited for a good deal but I hadn't made the gapples yet and I knew that if I sold all my gold at /warp shop I would have enough money for free so I decided to just sell it cause I was impatient.
       
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      You forget that they are priced that much because people buy them. Supply and demand. A lot of people don't want to go through the trouble of getting that much gold. If you are C rank, there isn't that much gold so it would take forever to create your own. You pay for labor.

      Ive had a few sell for over 20k lol
       
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      You obviously didn't read everything. I've seen the prices at your shop and you are trying to justify why you charge so much for super god apples. Take a look at this quote taken from my thread to show that I included labor in my math:
       
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      Lol, easy there tiger... :p I don't need to justify my prices, I haven't changed them as they have been set when it was only like the of us selling them, they were rare at that time so we could charge anything and people buy them. Now that there are so many people selling, there are competing markets so yes prices will drop.

      Anyway, all in all, 2k is not a realistic charge for labor. 2k is nothing in the grand scheme of the prison monetary system as just to get free it costs over one million.

      Who cares if there are such drastic prices though, if no one buys them, then the seller will reduce.
       
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      ScoFu, if you wanted to get a stack of gold ores you could easily get them in under 15 minutes. However, for a low ranking prisoner it would take much longer and 2k would be good money for them. I know for you 2k is nothing but to be honest you don't have to work hard to get 2k. You get more money the harder you work so 2k is a realistic number.
       
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      Lol, easy there tiger... :p I don't need to justify my prices, I haven't changed them as they have been set when it was only like the of us selling them, they were rare at that time so we could charge anything and people buy them. Now that there are so many people selling, there are competing markets so yes prices will drop.

      Anyway, all in all, 2k is not a realistic charge for labor. 2k is nothing in the grand scheme of the prison monetary system as just to get free it costs over one million.

      Woo cars of there are such drastic process though, if no one buys them, then the seller well reduce
      I don't think you got what I was saying, this want about me and my ability to make 2k...
       
    19. MurcielagoSky
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      Are you kidding me? You just said 2k was not a realistic charge for labor. I just explained that it was realistic.
       
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      I'm going to go ahead and leave this thread as you are making it against me lol. I was just giving my two cents as to why the prices are what they are, regardless of the "math". :)
       
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