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    Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Musezeta, Jan 22, 2016.

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    1. Musezeta
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      As we all know, Noobcrew relatively frequently goes through the server ban list and clears it out giving all players who have various levels of, and amounts of offences another chance. For a lot of players this is their second chance at a change for the better, but how many people put in the effort to do so?

      This may come as a bit of a shock to some, but as the age old expression goes, "a leopard can't change its spots". Well, not immediately it can't. A month isn't going to get you anywhere. Any psychologist with a real degree, licensed to practice will tell you habits of a higher concentration can't be broken in that short amount of time, and it's apparently true. You can take one good look at members of this community and see the effort or lack of we'll say into changing.

      Some of you sitting here reading this by now are wondering if I'm ranting or making a suggestion. My answer is yes, both. I am questioning the existence of the permanent ban list, the list of players who will never be unbanned, and who will never be given an appeal chance. Let's refer to this list as "the blacklist" in further discussion and by definition as "the list with no chance of return".

      If I wanted to, I could publicly call off a handful of members off the top of my head who if not by now under some grace of god, what have you, will or are on their way to a list like this. I wouldn't doubt a few of them will comment below, disagree with my proposal, and continue to live in their belligerent, slightly arrogant, condescending and denying manners; only to show once again how little effort they care about applying towards not breaking rules.

      These are the type of players who should be put on the blacklist. Some of you may say, "But Muse, that's my friend! You can't ban them forever, they're nice to me!!".
      Sorry, this isn't about niceness, this is about an apparent disregard or apathetic caring for rules, those of which they know they can break due to no permanent ban existing and a ban list clear. So in counterargument, I'll ask why would you be friends with them? You wouldn't talk to a repeat felon or someone you had a relationship with but broke ties because of cheating. This principle of a person changing applies to all scenarios equally in proportion. In that it doesn't happen over night, or in this case a month.

      But what if the blacklist is already in use? Why are certain players continually being filtered in with those with much lesser actions pinned to their names? Why are those who are technically criminals of contempt by law (in possible subjugation to their countries laws) who DoS, Dox, bully, sexually harass and normally harass players still here? Why are those who continually hack, ban evade, break chat and forum rules still here? Why aren't they on this list like Gwism (correct me if I'm wrong on this) who will never be allowed back? And if they do get added, they should be given a year before any consideration of an appeal chance.

      Nobody in this community comes on the server or the forums looking to kill time or have fun wants to deal with that, especially not repeatedly by the same people.

      Add a blacklist or if it's already here, start using it.

      Cyp or Crew I'd like to hear from you on what is being or what could be done about these players with a repeatedly apathetic history for your rules.

      If you have anything to add to my suggestion, or want to reasonably discuss/disagree leave a comment (this will be a forum I actually add to my watch list).
      If you are going to leave a salt ridden comment about my ranting, don't bother, I'll have it removed by a moderator. Same for anything off topic directed at me or any other users.
       
    2. Statikk_Shiv
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      I really agree with this @Musezeta ... These are felonies and need to be treated as so. Why should we let harmful people back onto the sever? If you've ever had someone DDoS you, it's annoying as heck! If they get unbanned they will go straight back to what they were doing before the ban... Yes, some will change, but that's a very low number of people who will change from the ban. Honestly, don't get me started with sexual harassment... But anyways yeah, I agree!
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    3. YRVintage
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      Lmao.


      If there was a blacklist, will there be a lack of donations?
      It's all about the money, if it wasn't, mv would probably go down
      Maybe there will be a blacklist, idk
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    4. PiLe
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      And why is Gwism on this list when he never broke a single rule?
      We have tons of players that hack and break rules over and over again. They get perm banned then unbanned by the ban reset. There is a list in the staff section of players to re-ban on sight. That list however isn't nearly long enough and with name changes makes it a hard feat to keep up to date.
       
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      No support
       
    6. Musezeta
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      You're asking the wrong person as to why he is there. I don't know him, I just know of the controversy for him being on there. That's why I specifically added correct me if I'm wrong as I am unaware of his situation.
      Namemc is there to update that list. The collective effort of the team can keep it updated. Those who try to avoid the list aren't making the effort to apologize and change, nor are those who keep catching a break by the resets. They should just be moved over to the list.
      UUID banning via LiteBans or MaxBans could also completely sidestep this as well. There's always a solution that can be considered.
       
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      Neutral.
       
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      i wonder who this is directed at
       
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      It would help very much if you used simple language that we can understand, using big words isn't going to make you look smarter. For example, check out this video (Warning: Don't watch video if you don't expect curse words, I know a majority of this community are small children) .
       
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      Ya we use NameMC but with players stealing others names it can be tricky tracing it back to which "xXslayerXx". If you understand me. UUID banning would be more efficient but also an extra step that I don't think will ever be made here.
      As for Gwis, he was banned for personal reasons but because his ban was from the co-owner it's justified. He can ban who he likes.
      Regardless his time here is well over. He would never come back.

      We have several players who should never be allowed back. Kings being one example of a permban let back by a ban reset. Stee was another banned by Cyp for rating kids and stealing accounts. Also returned by a ban reset. He however has been on a better path.
      Some people can change.
       
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      Thank you for your comment. Every word I used is a proper and common term. Granted not everyone on this site uses them when the average age range is 10-15 roughly, I didn't go out of my way to find a word like apricity or quarrelsome, something nobody would ever use.

      In short, some players should be placed on a list for not caring about behaving and removed from the server. If they don't care about the rules then I'm sure they wouldn't care about being allowed on.

      As much as I agree that people can 100% change, if they aren't going to try Cyp or Crew should save themselves, the mods, and the community some time. A year off from the server would give people enough time to consider their behavior and ask for a second chance. If they can't keep it together again then tough luck. Look at 3yerrt for example (or Stee as you mentioned), he was entitled to an opinion which Cyp did not like, served a long time and has been given another chance.

      The issue I'm trying to stress is that some people need a vast amount of off time before given the go ahead for reconsideration. I'm sure you understand that. How you, the community, and the owners feel about it is what I want to know.

      UUIDs should at least be considered by them, they concentrate everything, but that's my two cents on a different matter.
       
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      Please stay on topic.
       
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      Yes, I suppose it was an opinion. But I was quite rude and deserved what I got.
       
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      If the player is caught multiple times breaking server rules moderators simply request a permanent ban by a head moderator.
       
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      I've made like 7'offenses on op prison, yet apparently no ban? Lol
       
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      I can change that.
       
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      Lmao rekt
       
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