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    Discussion in 'Discussion' started by JazzMagic, Nov 23, 2015.

    1. JazzMagic
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      Introduction
      Hackers are a common annoyance in Minecraft multiplayer, we have all experienced them. You would die get raided and/or just generally beat by them. On most Minecraft servers they would get banned instantly if caught by a staff member of the said server. Usually, they would be banned permanently, never allowed to come back no matter how much they ask, or change. Some servers such as this one allow banned hackers to appeal their banned if they believe that they did not hack or they changed and removed their hacks. These servers hardly ever let hackers back on the server, why believe them? Sure, some of the hackers do remove their hacks and actually do change, but most server owners know that hackers usually hack again. Even if they do not hack in the first few weeks, they will always be tempted to use hacks again. These servers do this to keep hackers off their server so the players would have the greatest experience possible, continuing playing the server and be happy. Mineverse does ban hackers, but is their way of doing efficient?

      Problems with Hacker Control
      The only problem that I had with Mineverse mainly over the past year are the surplus of hackers on. I mainly play on the OP PvP server and I encounter hackers on a regular basis. For instance today, I think I encountered 10 or more hackers, some of them straight up admitting they hack and saying they don't care if they get banned. Why is this the case?
      - LACK OF MODS ONLINE
      - Lack of player reports
      - Lack of ban time
      - Mods are too lenient on ban appeals

      I play on OP PvP quite often and so do some of my friends and we never see mods on, EVER. I personally only seen one mod in 3-4 months! 3-4 MONTHS! Even though I can not be online every single second of the day, this is still unacceptable. This is the same whenever I visit any other server in the network. Heck, there were times when I would go on every single server in the network and see 0-2 mods on in the WHOLE NETWORK. I understand that mods have lives so I, but seriously? You guys are signing up for the position, you got people on the server to like you enough to support you in a mod application and this is how you pay back the people who supported you? You guys should at least dedicate some time out of your days to help the network out and to go on EVERY SERVER. No matter if it's Kit PvP, OP PvP, Survival or Hellblock.
      Another problem is the lack of player reports. A lot of people do Youtube on Mineverse and I see people complain about hackers instead of recording them and reporting them. For instance last night there was a hacker by the name of "Belle24", and she had every hack in the book. A lot of people were complaining about her including myself, and I figured someone had to record her. When I went on today after watching football and NASCAR I look in tab and she that she's online. This absolutely pissed me off, so I open up my recording software and take matters into my own hands and record her myself and get her banned. The point is, she has been obviously hacking for two straight days and it took that long for someone to report her and get a mod to notice that she has been hacking and to bring justice and banned her.
      Here is the next problem, I got this hacker banned and I am proud of myself of making so many people happy that I do /seen Belle24 to see it say "Banned: True" and I see this, but I see something else. SHE WAS BANNED FOR 30 DAYS!!! Yup, no permanent ban, just a month temporary ban! I got one question for this, how do you expect to keep hackers off the server if they are only banned from the server for one month and can come back without changing and hack again? This makes absolutely no sense to me what so ever.
      But lets say they do not want to wait a month and decide to appeal their ban. A long time ago ban appeals were visible to the public and I would see banned hackers spill liek dis and convince the banning mod to unban them and the mod would unban them!?! And they would go back to the server and hack once again and this could possibly go on for two more times (you can appeal three bans). And keep in note that these bans would be appealed in one or two days! Once I was forum banned for sharing a private IP and my unban was not considered for 5 months and I was even denied once after committing a crime that was not very bad and I was using good spelling a grammar.

      Solutions to these Problems
      There are two solutions to the problem of the lack of mods. 1) Get the current mods to improve or demote them and get more active mods 2) Hire more mods that can be more active and are able to cover ALL SERVERS! Once these solutions are considered, these mods need to fly around and look for hackers in PvP or xraying and ban them on sight! These mods should not be talking to their friends the whole time, finding the hackers should be mods MAIN PRIORITY!
      Players (myself included) need to be brave to step up to the hackers and record them just in case a mod cannot be online at that moment. Most people have some type of recording software on their computers so why not utilize it? Also, once a player notices a hacker they need to jump up and record them instantly so they can be banned as soon as possible. If the players of Mineverse enjoy the server that they are playing on, they can help out by reporting hackers if mods are not online for whatever reason. If mods are on more constantly then players need to request mods to watch a hacker through private message! If you ask a mod to watch a hacker in public chat, the hacker would just turn off their hacks.
      Do I really need to explain how to fix the fact that mods only temporary ban hackers? Mods need to permanently ban ALL hackers! With a chance to appeal of course. This will keep hackers off the server, if they ban evade then simply permanently ip-ban them without the chance to appeal.
      For ban appeals, I don't know if they changed since they were visible, but don't be so lenient on letting hackers back, because more than likely they will come back and hack again. People should only be unbanned if they 1) Were banned for hacking but really did not hack 2) Show the mod extensive proof that their hacks are nonexistent on the said person's PC. Besides this, the rest of the appeals should instantly be DENIED! More appeals should be denied than accepted.

      Conclusion
      Lets face it, hackers are very common and annoying on Mineverse. The hacker base is increasing everyday for the past year. The reasons for this increase in hacking are very obvious and are shown everyday, however these issues can easily be solved very simply. If Noobcrew and CrypriotMerks can follow these easy to follow steps to reduce hackers on this network. I can guaranteed that people would be happier on here and people would play more and they would eventually donate to the server, in which more features and gamemodes can be added! Thanks for reading.

      Summary

      Problems
      - Mods are not active enough
      - Players do not report hackers instantly
      - Mods only hand out temp bans
      - Mods unban too many hackers in ban appeals
      Solutions
      - More active mods need to be added and inactive mods need to be demoted
      - Players need to report hackers quicker and more often
      - Mods need to perm ban every hacker
      - Mods need to limit unbans to very few in appeals


      ~ JazzMagic


       
    2. BlackZone
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      Ok first of all the main reason that it is possibly time zones and the mods can't be active
      24/7 they have a life outside of MC and they are all are pretty much active.
      But I do agree on more mods to be promoted.
       
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      @Marcore There is a lack of mods especially in Australia, because most mods are in America.. The mods do an amazing job but it's that just they can't moderate in a small group, and they can't moderate the server on midnight..
       
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      Demoting the inactive moderators would make matters worse, when they are actually on, there's nothing they can do. I agree that we need some more moderators, especially ones that live in Australia.
       
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      Europeans as well
       
    6. sircorgi
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      So Europe and Australia? ;-;
       
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      Mods not active?
      Report them! That's what the report section is for.
      Players not reporting hackers immediately?
      Either they deal with it, get a moderator on, or you could do that instead.
      Mods only hand out temporary bans?
      From what I know, first time offenders get a 31 day ban, without chance of appeal. That's pretty fair.
       
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      I think the current moderators and doing a good job the issue is just the time zones and the fact that there are very few in different ones. More need to be promoted in those time zones so that these issues can be prevented and dealt with quicker. There's not really much more we can do about it to be honest, with every server you usually get hackers.
       
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      yeah, the mods are not active at all.
      they should promote everyone who have applied for moderator, that will solve the problem and get rid of the hackers :)))
      + give them access to perm ban.
       
    10. Zombie__Creed2442
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      I have seen many players hacking on Infetion, Factions, KitPvP, even hacking in lobby.
      We need Moderators who take there job seriously.
      And I am not saying the Moderators we have now are bad, but some of them really should be more active than what they are.​
       
    11. TADS
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      I can agree there.
      How would you know? You can only see yours..
      Moderators can only perm ban in lobby, temp-ban is all they get in game modes (max 31 days)
      They need to allow moderators the ability to perm ban in all game modes.
      Once again, you wouldn't know. From my two ban appeals, I can tell you they aren't. They deny all (or most) appeals that are 31 days or less.
      Time zones, eh?
      Us players do the best we can.
      Ok, so.

      If you ban a non donor who was going to donate without an appeal, there goes possibly 250$. I doubt that's what the owners want.

      Hacking is a 31 day ban, not a perm.



      But yea, time zones are a thing.
       
    12. JazzMagic
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      - I sometimes play in the morning, afternoon or night and I don't see staff on at any time, so don't use timezone as an excuse :)
      - I wonder how many of you actually read the thread because my facts are based off of the time when ban appeals and reports were visible, a long time ago.
      - I never realised that mods only have temp ban, but the owners should seriously give them perm ban.
       
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      On weekdays, I can be online like late at night at 8 and on weekends I can be one line anytime but I guess it's true that mods ain't active as much but we'll see
       
    14. TADS
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      Time zone is an excuse. You're looking for every way to make the staff feel bad; it's not working.
      What I find funny is that things change.
      Yes
       
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      - I live on the west timezone of the US; you expect me to believe they're not mods in the US, heck in my time zone left alone?

      - What were you banned for? In your eariler response you said you were banned twice. (If you don't want to share I totally understand).
       
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      omg if you think you can do better apply for mod for crying out loud also @Noobcrew you need to update the anti-cheat plugin Godmode works isn't supposed to I can name one client's fastbow that works and use an anti-killauru cheat on all servers
       
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      1. I probably won't be accepted as mod, no one would support me lol
      2. Godmode hacks do not exist, if you can't hit someone then it's most likely lag
      3. Anti-Cheat plugins are honestly not that good compared to the clients out there, the server as a whole need to work together to solve this problem, a plugin won't be a very effective solution
       
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      are u telling me about hacks you noob I most probably know more things about hacks then the mods lamo
       
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      tell me that's not godmode I have that client on my other computer nub
       

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