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thorraks · Aug 28, 2015

Alex said: ↑

If they break the rules on purpose, we should know the appropriate actions to take so we don't look bad. That is what I am saying. We only look bad if we take the wrong actions.

I agree that there are some trouble makers but we need to stop blaming the community for our mistakes.
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I wish all the mods were like you

Bantz · Aug 28, 2015

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GizzBots said: ↑

Hi everyone,

I know you're entitled to your opinion and all, but TADS, you only just got back. :p I'll start with what you've said about me.

"The second example I have is Gizzbotts. In this case, Gizz is extremely biased towards his friends. All he seems to care about is Jolie. All his posts about it make it seem like he's in love her. If he had to make a ban on her, he probably wouldn't."

Jolie, yes, is a dear friend of mine but because I have certain feelings for someone doesn't mean that I am incapable of doing my job? You could've at least provided examples of this(even though that I know of, there aren't many) to back up your statement. Me saying to someone "I miss you" does not mean in anyway that I am a bad moderator.. We're human. Let's think about this logically.

What you're trying to say is that if someone applies for mod voluntarily that they aren't allowed to show general emotion in certain posts? That they're not allowed to care for someone and show that? That they're not allowed to have friends? I was just like you TADS at one stage. I had the same, ignorant view and quite frankly I think that my moderating experience opened my eyes to the amount that moderators do and what is expected of them.

I don't see how me being friendly to people and overly friendly to some, such as Jolie who only plays MV with me can be seen as 'bias'. You can't actually state that I wouldn't make a ban on her as you wouldn't know. Here's an example. One of my dearest friends, EddyCottonSocks who I've known for over a year now and has been there for me in hard times is currently banned by me on about 4 of his accounts. You may say "why isn't he banned for ban evading", and all that, but we require written proof for this. Like physical evidence.

I love Eddy. He's a great mate. I respect him and I wish him the best, but he's broken rules and he will pay the consequences. He's staying banned and he knows that. He may be close with me, but that doesn't mean I am not going to do what is expected of me simply over a friendship.

If you still find me bias, then that's fine, but I know that I'm not. It's ok with others having their opinions, I just don't want it to affect my moderating ability. Now, I'll state my reply for the staff team.

Mods are put under a lot of pressure from the community in general and what is expected of them. I have witnessed this, and I understand how stressful it can be. Threads such as this do not help. I'm not sure if you're trying to help, but unless you're providing constructive criticism, these stress us more. I really hope everyone understands this, or at least some of you get the message, but moderating isn't easy. It's hard to hand out punishments considering that the rules aren't exactly clearly defined. It would help if they were, and if certain punishments were outlined or a newer guide was made that we could follow a lot more closely. The problem is, some situations are circumstantial and we have to deal with this in our own way. It may be hard to understand this, but I'm sure you get what I mean.

I harassed you on TS? lol. You joined the channel expecting to be able to talk as much smack and treat us on TS like you do on the forums when a lot of them people are from SB, and I put you in your place. That was literally all it was. It was a conversation. It's Teamspeak DJ, don't come on there if you can't handle talking through voice to someone. You always had the option to move channels but instead you decided to stay and attempt to stir the channel. Yeah, no.

Again, lol. Elrak, you come on Teamspeak and stir up trouble for yourself. There's rules on Teamspeak and you constantly break them. That's why you're banned. That's the only reason you're ever banned. Coming on Teamspeak and telling people to kill themselves in ways that you think is 'funny' and think give you the ability to evade punishment is not ok. I've said this to you many times, and I and a fair few people on teamspeak aren't going to put up with your stuff. It's to the point that when the staff channels were removed we asked you to leave the channel so we could talk and you refused. I messaged Terrick and asked for him to move us or something temporarily, and he simply asked why. After I explained that you refused and were harassing us, he told me to literally ban you.

You've sent me my dox through teamspeak. There's one rule broken that could have you perm banned and yet I let you be? Yeah elrak, I'm so abusive. You're right. Hey, remember that time that you and Jaimee got into a huge argument despite you telling her and others to 'kill themselves'? You both received equal punishment even though you antagonized her.

Your little brother? You're still intending on lying to everyone? You couldn't even speak at the same time as him to prove it. Everyone in the channel, including myself could tell it was a voice changer. When I asked your 'brother' where you were, you(pretending to be your 'brother') said that 'Elrak' was well.. Yeah.[/QUOTE do my English homework plz
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Bantz · Aug 28, 2015

GizzBots said: ↑

Hi everyone,

I know you're entitled to your opinion and all, but TADS, you only just got back. :p I'll start with what you've said about me.

"The second example I have is Gizzbotts. In this case, Gizz is extremely biased towards his friends. All he seems to care about is Jolie. All his posts about it make it seem like he's in love her. If he had to make a ban on her, he probably wouldn't."

Jolie, yes, is a dear friend of mine but because I have certain feelings for someone doesn't mean that I am incapable of doing my job? You could've at least provided examples of this(even though that I know of, there aren't many) to back up your statement. Me saying to someone "I miss you" does not mean in anyway that I am a bad moderator.. We're human. Let's think about this logically.

What you're trying to say is that if someone applies for mod voluntarily that they aren't allowed to show general emotion in certain posts? That they're not allowed to care for someone and show that? That they're not allowed to have friends? I was just like you TADS at one stage. I had the same, ignorant view and quite frankly I think that my moderating experience opened my eyes to the amount that moderators do and what is expected of them.

I don't see how me being friendly to people and overly friendly to some, such as Jolie who only plays MV with me can be seen as 'bias'. You can't actually state that I wouldn't make a ban on her as you wouldn't know. Here's an example. One of my dearest friends, EddyCottonSocks who I've known for over a year now and has been there for me in hard times is currently banned by me on about 4 of his accounts. You may say "why isn't he banned for ban evading", and all that, but we require written proof for this. Like physical evidence.

I love Eddy. He's a great mate. I respect him and I wish him the best, but he's broken rules and he will pay the consequences. He's staying banned and he knows that. He may be close with me, but that doesn't mean I am not going to do what is expected of me simply over a friendship.

If you still find me bias, then that's fine, but I know that I'm not. It's ok with others having their opinions, I just don't want it to affect my moderating ability. Now, I'll state my reply for the staff team.

Mods are put under a lot of pressure from the community in general and what is expected of them. I have witnessed this, and I understand how stressful it can be. Threads such as this do not help. I'm not sure if you're trying to help, but unless you're providing constructive criticism, these stress us more. I really hope everyone understands this, or at least some of you get the message, but moderating isn't easy. It's hard to hand out punishments considering that the rules aren't exactly clearly defined. It would help if they were, and if certain punishments were outlined or a newer guide was made that we could follow a lot more closely. The problem is, some situations are circumstantial and we have to deal with this in our own way. It may be hard to understand this, but I'm sure you get what I mean.

I harassed you on TS? lol. You joined the channel expecting to be able to talk as much smack and treat us on TS like you do on the forums when a lot of them people are from SB, and I put you in your place. That was literally all it was. It was a conversation. It's Teamspeak DJ, don't come on there if you can't handle talking through voice to someone. You always had the option to move channels but instead you decided to stay and attempt to stir the channel. Yeah, no.

Again, lol. Elrak, you come on Teamspeak and stir up trouble for yourself. There's rules on Teamspeak and you constantly break them. That's why you're banned. That's the only reason you're ever banned. Coming on Teamspeak and telling people to kill themselves in ways that you think is 'funny' and think give you the ability to evade punishment is not ok. I've said this to you many times, and I and a fair few people on teamspeak aren't going to put up with your stuff. It's to the point that when the staff channels were removed we asked you to leave the channel so we could talk and you refused. I messaged Terrick and asked for him to move us or something temporarily, and he simply asked why. After I explained that you refused and were harassing us, he told me to literally ban you.

You've sent me my dox through teamspeak. There's one rule broken that could have you perm banned and yet I let you be? Yeah elrak, I'm so abusive. You're right. Hey, remember that time that you and Jaimee got into a huge argument despite you telling her and others to 'kill themselves'? You both received equal punishment even though you antagonized her.

Your little brother? You're still intending on lying to everyone? You couldn't even speak at the same time as him to prove it. Everyone in the channel, including myself could tell it was a voice changer. When I asked your 'brother' where you were, you(pretending to be your 'brother') said that 'Elrak' was well.. Yeah.
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do my English essays plz. He wouldn't be lying if he wrote this long essay.
This thread basically is some mineverse mods in a nutshell
I like how all the negative ratings in the thread were mods LOOOOOOL.

Bantz · Aug 28, 2015

this is why Tadz needed to get unbanned.
THIS THREAD IS g0d

Teeeb · Aug 28, 2015

ya'll need to chill

Bantz · Aug 28, 2015

ItzSlay said: ↑

ya'll need to chill
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there's no chill, #anna4mod

Teeeb · Aug 28, 2015

Bantz said: ↑

there's no chill, #anna4mod
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tru

Bantz · Aug 28, 2015

ItzSlay said: ↑

tru
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#apply

TADS · Aug 28, 2015

I find it hilarious that the only "old" ratings are coming from the moderators..

Teeeb · Aug 28, 2015

inb4 ban

Let's make this clear
About half of the current mods either suck or suck
@Alex is kinda the only good moderator (& @PopIs_MyLife)
The rest of you guys are either bias, abusive, plain dumb, or stupid

:')

Krissy · Aug 28, 2015

I can see where you are coming from. I tried to show the team the ways of Zambiana before he arrived on the team. Does anyone listen to me? no. I tried to stop mods banning for things like being insulted, and staff impersonation, saying kys, and swearing on the forums just to name a few.
Zambiana is pretty much my mentor and I would listen to what he has to say. In fact I have actually based most of my mod style on his due to the enormous amount of respect I have for him.
I wasn't a mineverse native. I joined a while back, played casually and came on the team because of my standing in the skyblock community. I did not expect to be ignored so heavily with a different approach when the current one isnt working.
I love being a staff. I love helping you guys, I love that I do have respect from members and it is a pleasure to have this experience. I have nothing against anyone here.
But I just hope you know there are some mods who want to change things. I am one of them.

tin15cro · Aug 28, 2015

There will always be biased / abusive moderators.

Teeeb · Aug 28, 2015

tin15cro said: ↑

There will always be biased / abusive moderators.
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sure

Krissy · Aug 28, 2015

come now slay, i dont see what ive done so wrong. Ive only ever been nice and sweet

Teeeb · Aug 28, 2015

Krissy_ said: ↑

come now slay, i dont see what ive done so wrong. Ive only ever been nice and sweet

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Sorry I think you're annoying and a kiss up

TADS · Aug 28, 2015

Stop arguing on my thread.

tin15cro said: ↑

There will always be biased / abusive moderators.
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I know that, but there's too many. What ever happened to moderators like @Firo or @TheInsaneManiac

Teeeb · Aug 28, 2015

TADS4 said: ↑

Stop arguing on my thread.

I know that, but there's too many. What ever happened to moderators like @Firo or @TheInsaneManiac
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or me

Krissy · Aug 28, 2015

ItzSlay said: ↑

Sorry I think you're annoying and a kiss up
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eh you dont really know me all that well anyway. But thanks I will try not to be a "kiss up"

Teeeb · Aug 28, 2015

Krissy_ said: ↑

eh you dont really know me all that well anyway. But thanks I will try not to be a "kiss up"
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Krissy · Aug 28, 2015

I would like to see this thread remain open, so may we please keep on topic, and if possible, keep comments polite.

All I will say instead of a long reply is that I respect your opinion on the team. I will take your feedback on board. I will not lie and say I am perfect or I am what you will call a good role model to other mods. I have my ways of doing things, I have the person i look up to. I am not trying to impress you by being the mod that you are asking for, but at the same time I would like feedback so I can be closer to the mod you need.
Otherwise, this is the last of me, go celebrate

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