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    Discussion in 'Discussion' started by joshuawebb, May 14, 2015.

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    1. joshuawebb
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      Hey guys it's Josh,

      as you can see from the title something is terribly wrong. What's that you may ask. Well, it's simple, when hackers aren't afraid to simply tell you they're hacking and give reasons for it there's something pretty wrong. This just goes as to show how no one is actually afraid of the staff, I'm not saying they should be but they should respect them. I got on after a really long period of inactivity to see the server and I just felt horrible, how bad it's gotten. People are swearing all over place, what I find weird is we can't say the word hacks yet we can swear, problem? We need to do something! I suggest we put better hack proof plugins or something. The community has grown toxic and terriffyingly bad to an extent I just can't bare to see, I'm not saying everyone but a lot of them. This is supposed to be a family friendly server for crying out loud! Well I've got my point out, don't hate I'm simply stating the facts. If you disagree simply disagree, no need for a fight over this.

      -Josh
       
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      I hack.
       
    3. Krissy
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      Im not sure why staff are not respected as much here. I guess you need to earn respect. Plus maybe staff are too afraid of getting reported that they let things slide. Guess its a harder gig these days.

      But it seems that on larger servers you get your fair share of abusers and hackers and the chaos and such. As mineverse grows in popularity so does the number of players, and so does the number of trouble makers.

      some hacks cannot be detected by anti cheat systems, im sure mineverse has the best it can get.
      I guess thats part of the change of mv.
       
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      Well, problably the only anti-cheat system is GCheat which bans automatically if the system think you're hacking/cheating. I'm not saying GCheat is bad, but any system could go wrong. The system might ban people who are extremely good at PvP and they would be mad.
       
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      I don't see why mod are afraid to handle bans. If they stuff up a ban, it doesn't matter as long as the proof was roughly correct.

      I strongly believe in the fact that respect is earned, not demanded.
       
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      No one fears the moderators, I can assume they despise and suck up to them, which is so they don't get muted or banned because they're 'friends'. The mods care what you say, they don't care enough to take what you say and apply it. It took me two months to get them to realize that they can edit or just simply remove a post without banning. I'm sorry but banning someone for posting in the wrong section for 2 days when you can simply remove it is beyond acceptable.

      People break rules here because the moderators are massive hypocrites and have a small understanding on how to actually moderate, theirs no head-mod to teach them. Godforbid they still follow what ScoFu said, and that was horrible.
       
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      How do you know I don't know how to moderate? You've only ever been on with me once. Stop assuming everyone is bad and at least give us a chance, before criticising... Yes some mods still need training, but the older mods train the new mods and they come to understand everything, eventually.
       
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      I totally agree
       
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      God. please. chicken. cheese :I
       
    10. joshuawebb
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      Guys, I don't want a flame war on this thread...
       
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      that's nice.
       
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      I have also have seen hackers admit that they are hacking. I think @krissy_punk is right about what he said. But I don't think all of the mods are scared to be reported. If some are scared to be reported why are they staff? They are supposed to do there job. What I say is my opinion and you don't need to agree with me. Happy Gaming!
       
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      There is more disrespect here than what you may have seen on .net or .org mainly for the PvP aspect. Whenever you add a PvP element it changes everything. Ego is introduced and rage as well as defeat and shame. Those all have an effect on the overall feeling of the environment. Staff get a bit more talk back here mainly from the PvP based servers. Peaceful non-PvP tend to have way less conflict.
      I don't feel is has to do with staff letting fear stop them from doing what the job entails. The staff have no one person to look up to for advice on situations. They have no one guiding them. They also lack a defined punishment guide. They are left to decide what is the appropriate punishment on their own, often looking to what the majority of the staff do or just 'winging' it. I think they may be loose on punishments based on that alone.
      As far as the the anti-cheat plugins, it's a fine line you have to walk. Lag can cause innocent players to be kicked if the anti-cheat is too sensitive for example resulting in them combat-logging and loosing all they have worked for. MV uses NCP for their anti-cheat. I think the plugin needs to be updated, but that's about it.
      The PWN filter plugin needs an update that is the issue with the swearing in chat.
      As far as the hackers being pompous morons? Well they have always been this way. xD
      Hackers will come and go. They always do. No reason to let them stop you form enjoying the server. Just keep reporting and one by one they will get banned.
       
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      I get what you're saying but 1 thing is just that it ruins the fun, when I played a few months back, it wasn't as bad. Yes, there were hackers but there was "honour" you could say. Being good at PvP actually meant something and now hackers ruin it.
       
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      Bro i agree.
       
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      I think the fear is bad reparations, they will be demoted or just get a whole lot of hate. It's a natural fear in mods, especially newer mods but I'm sure mods at least do what they are supposed to, at least chat moderating.
       
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      I sometimes chat moderate even though I am not staff. I try to help where I can. I remind people of the rules, and I try to keep advertisers away. But I agree that newer mods tend to be more scared of banning someone. All they need is evidence of what the person did and they are safe.
       
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      Solid evidence. Not always will a mod be safe, but yeah if they keep evidence for every action then reports would be a non issue. Yet it still is because players make any excuses if they have the drive to demote a mod. The more reports, some mods might think they will get in trouble. Older mods tend to be the trusted ones and have experience handling tough players.
      Sorry for the ramble, I do agree with you.
       
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      one of the main problems is that now, we can't see ban appeals, so hackers keep coming back. Ever since Cyp disallowed reports and ban appeal viewing, more and more hackers are comming back.
       
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      I think we have gone off topic. Having evidence sure helps to keep a mod safe. I really dislike how some players have a drive to get mods demoted. I know these things because I have had lots of staff experiences.
       
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