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  • Survival /claimdeny or /deny

    Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by BigDave, Oct 29, 2017.

    1. BigDave
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      BigDave Experienced Member

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      As we're able to /trust people to our claims to build and edit blocks inside them (just like Creative), we should be able to /claimdeny or /deny them as well.
      Note: Funny how the current two with no support is the one who I am continually making counters to and the player that caused me to make this suggestion.

      Currently, I have found no loopholes to it, and I will add my own counterarguments below:
      --Prevents specific players from entering our claim or warps inside it
      --Prevents nuisances and trolls
      --Allows quick removal of previously denied accounts' alts.

      -"Just enable PvP and kill the person"
      --Enabling PvP instead would require killing the player, in which case he can bring friends to fight with him. This negates PvP in the possibility of not being able to overpower the player.

      -"People can set warps or teleport back to another player"
      --This does not have to do with denying from warps; it works with denying from claims. (I should probably put emphasis on the word /claimdeny instead of /deny, but the current command to trust players to claims is /trust, not /claimtrust)
      Even if they set warps inside your claims or another person attempts to teleport them into the claim, they would automatically be teleported out or won't even enter the claim in the first place, therefore denying access to any and all warps within said claim.
       
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    2. SniffMyToes
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      SniffMyToes Boss Member

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      Great idea. This will prevent scumbags from stealing my spawners *cough* @AJSpieg
      Support
       
    3. Dizzy
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      Dizzy Active Member

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      Nah I think we should just have pvp enable or disable in our claims so we can kill unwanted pests in it. If you don’t want someone accessing a warp then delete it, if they set their own warp, then enable pvp and kill them.
       
    4. BigDave
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      That's not what I mean, though. This is for keeping out specific people.
      For example, say I want to keep someone from going to my mob grinder warp.
      If I just enable pvp, people would be killing each other.
      Simply adding /deny bypasses this issue.
      Also, why should I have to delete a warp because of one person? If it's made to be a public warp, it should stay to the public.
       
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      Scorv Gaming Warlord Premium

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      That would create so many problems. Play factions if you want that.
       
    6. Dizzy
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      How lol. It makes it so if annoying people are in your claim, then you kill them. But please explain how that would create problems? Being able to control pvp in your claim, that way people can’t safe spot in your claim and you’d be able to kill them.

      I’ve had public warps with 1 annoying person before, way I handled it was just waited till they went offline, usually they don’t come back if they think the warps gone and if it’s such a big deal then just don’t make it public or make it safe or delete the warp when you are breaking rare blocks.
       
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      People could easily manipulate it work to their advantage to kill people. Just place lava beside the person you want gone.
       
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      Hey, no need for t
      he hate, its just a game...:cool: and also its your fault for not del the warp/blocking it off...
       
    9. StrKillr
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      If only they hired a good dev. xd
       
    10. BigDave
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      First of all, and once again, the problem with enabling pvp in a public warp is the pvp itself. Nobody should have to risk dying to grind xp. Plus, if you wanted to enable pvp to kill a guy, he could bring his friends and end up having a 3v1+ against you.
      If I deleted or blocked off the warp, it would defeat the purpose of being a public XP-grinding room. Furthermore, you're the reason I'm making this suggestion, and I shouldn't have to delete warps meant to be public.
      If only the current owners and devs did stuff to start with.
       
    11. Dizzy
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      That’s why after the dude is dealt with you turn pvp off again. Also why would you make it known in chat that you’re doing something at a public warp that others can gain from. Why would I tell everyone I’m mining my spanwers if I have a public warp there? I’d delete the warp or like STR said block it off. The whole point of denying someone to a warp is useless because if it’s a public warp... chances are there are multiple warps there and the person can just tp to another person at the warp.
       
    12. Dizzy
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      I mean you shouldn’t steal from people on the first place but I mean he could of done more to protect it.
       
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      This is specifically why /deny would solve this.
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      "Dealing with the dude" would require actually killing him, in which case he can bring friends to fight with him. This negates pvp in the possibility of not being able to overpower the person.
      -"denying someone to a warp is useless because if it’s a public warp... chances are there are multiple warps there and the person can just tp to another person at the warp."
      --This does not have to do with denying from warps; it works with denying from claims. (I should probably put emphasis on the word /claimdeny instead of /deny, but the current command to trust players to claims is /trust, not /claimtrust) Even if they set warps inside your claims or another person attempts to teleport them into the claim, they would automatically be teleported out or won't even enter the claim in the first place, therefore denying access to any and all warps within said claim. If you played Creative, you would know this.

      If you still don't understand how this works, I can post a video that demonstrates what I'm explaining, tomorrow.
       
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      Support Im not a huge survival player but as long as the plugin actually does It's job Im all for It
       
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      I find this as a good idea, this would allow you to specify who you want in and out and any people either better at pvp or with more gear can't have a hay day in your claim, and they would be likely to leave you alone more often. It could result in you going out of your claim and back in though hitting the person and killing them that way or people surrounding your claim with their own and doing /deny to make you unable to enter and leave your own claim
       

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